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You are totally right. Also given all the forthcoming apps that will be published to the AppStore, you bandwidth consumption will surely be quite high. Unlimited bandwidth enables those application to run without you worrying about data consumption. And it also help the development community really used the iPhone as an Internet device.
Guess is Rogers is not understanding any of this. I think we need to call them and explain what this means beyond greed and profits… Seems the monopoly wins again…
Martin Dufort28 June 08 at 1:35 am
Rogers don’t want (and don’t care) to understand. We have the exact same situation we had years ago in France with France Telecom.
And because of telcos regulations, we won’t see any serious competition until at least a couple of years.
Frederic Brunel28 June 08 at 2:03 am
You are totally right. Also given all the forthcoming apps that will be published to the AppStore, you bandwidth consumption will surely be quite high. Unlimited bandwidth enables those application to run without you worrying about data consumption. And it also help the development community really used the iPhone as an Internet device.
Guess is Rogers is not understanding any of this. I think we need to call them and explain what this means beyond greed and profits… Seems the monopoly wins again…
Martin Dufort28 June 08 at 1:35 am
Rogers don’t want (and don’t care) to understand. We have the exact same situation we had years ago in France with France Telecom.
And because of telcos regulations, we won’t see any serious competition until at least a couple of years.
Fred Brunel28 June 08 at 2:03 am
Thanks for doing this awful math.
At the office this morning, we were three mac users ready to go for the iPhone (your demos helped) but nobody is ready yet to buy the Rogers plans.
I strongly feel that they have made the choice to keep their old and profitable BlackBerry addiction (it’s RIM, the canadian NOKIA) in the business by making the iPhone almost impossible to buy. If this is true, they have some real poor marketing analysts that deserve to be proven wrong by our beloved brick of fine Cupertino magic.
fredfred28 June 08 at 10:50 am
Thanks for doing this awful math.
At the office this morning, we were three mac users ready to go for the iPhone (your demos helped) but nobody is ready yet to buy the Rogers plans.
I strongly feel that they have made the choice to keep their old and profitable BlackBerry addiction (it’s RIM, the canadian NOKIA) in the business by making the iPhone almost impossible to buy. If this is true, they have some real poor marketing analysts that deserve to be proven wrong by our beloved brick of fine Cupertino magic.
fredfred28 June 08 at 10:50 am
With a stock in decline, they just missed an incredible opportunity to change that course. In the end, such greed will actually hurt their shareholders bottom line. That message will be stronger than any online and printed complaints we can come up with.
Stephane Daury28 June 08 at 12:11 pm
Also, if they had a little vision, they would have anticipated the slew of hyper-local services that could have developed with a consumer accessible iPhone (which, let’s not fool ourselves, it won’t be) and partnered with these to ultimately increase their profits. Greed isn’t bad in the eyes of the corporate/publicly-traded company world, but visible greed is. And that’s what they’re guilty of.
Stephane Daury28 June 08 at 12:39 pm
With a stock in decline, they just missed an incredible opportunity to change that course. In the end, such greed will actually hurt their shareholders bottom line. That message will be stronger than any online and printed complaints we can come up with.
Stephane Daury28 June 08 at 12:11 pm
Also, if they had a little vision, they would have anticipated the slew of hyper-local services that could have developed with a consumer accessible iPhone (which, let’s not fool ourselves, it won’t be) and partnered with these to ultimately increase their profits. Greed isn’t bad in the eyes of the corporate/publicly-traded company world, but visible greed is. And that’s what they’re guilty of.
Stephane Daury28 June 08 at 12:39 pm
I’m quite sick about all the telcos in Canada.
These Rogers plans for the iPhone are scandalous and disgusting.
Personally, I wanted an iPhone but I’ll stick with my Blackberry by principle. I won’t encourage Rogers and make them think these rates are a good idea. Because they’re not.
I sadly hope that we’ll have tons of billing horror stories and that bloggers and traditional media will cover these and put Rogers (and their stock) to shame.
The sad part about Rogers’ and other telcos commercial activities is how they are slowing down Canadian technical innovation and entrepreneurship in the mobile space in particular and the telecommunication space in general.
Jerome Paradis28 June 08 at 4:32 pm
I’d like to see how the new canadian mobile licence holders are going to deal with this opportunity, espacially Power Corp.
Mobile data is THE way to expand ARPU but this increase has to be handled with care because it direcly impacts one’s monthly expenses on something else : phone data versus weekly magazines or online music for example.
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fredfred28 June 08 at 5:13 pm
I’m quite sick about all the telcos in Canada.
These Rogers plans for the iPhone are scandalous and disgusting.
Personally, I wanted an iPhone but I’ll stick with my Blackberry by principle. I won’t encourage Rogers and make them think these rates are a good idea. Because they’re not.
I sadly hope that we’ll have tons of billing horror stories and that bloggers and traditional media will cover these and put Rogers (and their stock) to shame.
The sad part about Rogers’ and other telcos commercial activities is how they are slowing down Canadian technical innovation and entrepreneurship in the mobile space in particular and the telecommunication space in general.
Jerome Paradis28 June 08 at 4:32 pm
I’d like to see how the new canadian mobile licence holders are going to deal with this opportunity, espacially Power Corp.
Mobile data is THE way to expand ARPU but this increase has to be handled with care because it direcly impacts one’s monthly expenses on something else : phone data versus weekly magazines or online music for example.
fredfred28 June 08 at 4:59 pm
CDN 160 per month * 36 month engagment does roughly CDN 5760 that could be translated to CDN 1920 per year
http://hotchaud.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/cdn-1000-per-year-for-an-iphone-in-canada/
fredfred28 June 08 at 5:13 pm
Fred, you’re right, I was even more conversative. That’s a hell lots of money.
The 3 years plan is really abusive. Most carriers propose a 2 year plan.
You also have to add the $200 to get the iPhone itself. Apple shares the price of the device with the carrier. Meaning that you have to pay $400 to Rogers in the fee, but nothing justify those prices.
Frederic Brunel28 June 08 at 6:20 pm
Fred, you’re right, I was even more conversative. That’s a hell lots of money.
The 3 years plan is really abusive. Most carriers propose a 2 year plan.
You also have to add the $200 to get the iPhone itself. Apple shares the price of the device with the carrier. Meaning that you have to pay $400 to Rogers in the fee, but nothing justify those prices.
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