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		<title>By: Roland Pater</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-87143</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Pater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Float elements are not about layout, their primary use is for a block to float inside a text paragraph — like for images in a word processor document.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There you hit the nail on the head.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Float elements are not about layout, their primary use is for a block to float inside a text paragraph — like for images in a word processor document.&#8221;<br /><br />There you hit the nail on the head.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Roland Pater</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-72026</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Pater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Float elements are not about layout, their primary use is for a block to float inside a text paragraph — like for images in a word processor document.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There you hit the nail on the head.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Float elements are not about layout, their primary use is for a block to float inside a text paragraph — like for images in a word processor document.&#8221;<br /><br />There you hit the nail on the head.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: document management</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-51011</link>
		<dc:creator>document management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well for me having a simply layout is great, specially google =), but if you visit my site you will see that it really has its own layout.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well for me having a simply layout is great, specially google =), but if you visit my site you will see that it really has its own layout.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tables vs CSS &#124; Fred Brunel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tables vs CSS &#124; Fred Brunel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] thought this war was over, and that pragmatics won. But it seems that web designers are still struggling to [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thought this war was over, and that pragmatics won. But it seems that web designers are still struggling to [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-29300</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;boo! youre evil too! :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boo! youre evil too! <img src='http://fredbrunel.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-6010</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As someone who has just put a toe in the water of web design using tables and CSS in Dreamweaver (gulp), I must confess that I find the puritanical tone of the ultra CSS fundamentalists quite scary. So, it&#039;s quite nice to find someone suggesting a little flexibility of attitude.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has just put a toe in the water of web design using tables and CSS in Dreamweaver (gulp), I must confess that I find the puritanical tone of the ultra CSS fundamentalists quite scary. So, it&#8217;s quite nice to find someone suggesting a little flexibility of attitude.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-21662</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As someone who has just put a toe in the water of web design using tables and CSS in Dreamweaver (gulp), I must confess that I find the puritanical tone of the ultra CSS fundamentalists quite scary. So, it&#039;s quite nice to find someone suggesting a little flexibility of attitude.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has just put a toe in the water of web design using tables and CSS in Dreamweaver (gulp), I must confess that I find the puritanical tone of the ultra CSS fundamentalists quite scary. So, it&#8217;s quite nice to find someone suggesting a little flexibility of attitude.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Fred Brunel</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-21661</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Brunel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most commercial web sites are using table because it&#039;s easy to maintain coherency between browsers and because efforts and costs of development are low.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s what we call constraints. It tooks years for browsers vendor to stabilize tables rendering and it will take years to do the same for CSS. In the meantime, we can still make sites with standards in mind but with embracing production constraints.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most commercial web sites are using table because it&#8217;s easy to maintain coherency between browsers and because efforts and costs of development are low.<br /><br />That&#8217;s what we call constraints. It tooks years for browsers vendor to stabilize tables rendering and it will take years to do the same for CSS. In the meantime, we can still make sites with standards in mind but with embracing production constraints.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-21660</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Okay, so maybe I&#039;m just being anecdotal, but I did a quick search and found a hell of a lot of sites using tables.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://Amazon.com&quot;&gt;Amazon.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://Ebay.com&quot;&gt;Ebay.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://Linux.org&quot;&gt;Linux.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://Apple.com&quot;&gt;Apple.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://CNN.com&quot;&gt;CNN.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://NYTimes.com&quot;&gt;NYTimes.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://Google.com&quot;&gt;Google.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe we should boycott these companies for supporting such terrible web design standards.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kudos to Fred for speaking up.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so maybe I&#8217;m just being anecdotal, but I did a quick search and found a hell of a lot of sites using tables.<br /><br /><a href="http://Amazon.com">Amazon.com</a><br /><a href="http://Ebay.com">Ebay.com</a><br /><a href="http://Linux.org">Linux.org</a><br /><a href="http://Apple.com">Apple.com</a><br /><a href="http://CNN.com">CNN.com</a><br /><a href="http://NYTimes.com">NYTimes.com</a><br /><a href="http://Google.com">Google.com</a><br /><br />Maybe we should boycott these companies for supporting such terrible web design standards.<br /><br />Kudos to Fred for speaking up.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Frederic Brunel</title>
		<link>http://fredbrunel.com/journal/2006/08/tables-are-not-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederic Brunel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most commercial web sites are using table because it&#039;s easy to maintain coherency between browsers and because efforts and costs of development are low.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s what we call constraints. It tooks years for browsers vendor to stabilize tables rendering and it will take years to do the same for CSS. In the meantime, we can still make sites with standards in mind but with embracing production constraints.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most commercial web sites are using table because it&#8217;s easy to maintain coherency between browsers and because efforts and costs of development are low.</p>

<p>That&#8217;s what we call constraints. It tooks years for browsers vendor to stabilize tables rendering and it will take years to do the same for CSS. In the meantime, we can still make sites with standards in mind but with embracing production constraints.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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